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Post by IonicCraze on Dec 12, 2014 22:28:02 GMT -5
France will be willing to purchase a section of Spain. What are the costs?
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Post by IonicCraze on Dec 12, 2014 22:31:00 GMT -5
(however i think that it should be left as an independent nation. i don't think its fair for it to be left to another country. we should do similar to that of Italy. make it independent. thats just my two cents worth)
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Post by IonicCraze on Dec 12, 2014 22:50:07 GMT -5
what are we wagering?
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The-Great-Zuzu-Man
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Post by The-Great-Zuzu-Man on Dec 13, 2014 0:43:13 GMT -5
Autctioning off an entire territory? People there do realize your doing this right?
((I don't see any of the people in Spain being happy because they are being auctioned off. These rp's are starting to enter the realm of non-realism. The buying/giving/selling of land has no many factors. Sure in RL history there has been large land purchases like te Louisiana purchase, but the land was mostly undeveloped. The selling of this land in a such a multitude is insane.
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Ceres
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Post by Ceres on Dec 13, 2014 5:57:10 GMT -5
(Not the entire territory. A title is simply a claim of a piece of paper. The people would only be affected if our governments vary on a certain magnitude. As for Spain, they were just in a government that did not provided for them, so a government that would buy the land would help them more so than hurt them. More off, I see the people supporting this.)
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Ceres
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Post by Ceres on Dec 13, 2014 6:28:31 GMT -5
Money, other land claims, population, resources, technologies, military, army/naval bases, etc etc. Really anything that you can think of. |
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Post by IonicCraze on Dec 13, 2014 8:27:24 GMT -5
France will give Austria-Hungary control of its military for the rest of the (rp) year.
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Post by The-Great-Zuzu-Man on Dec 13, 2014 11:19:36 GMT -5
((A peice of paper with four million people behind its name. Giving away your military? Really? This is just getting a tad bit strange. I think I'll bid though. But only to create a personal union with Spain.))
I'll bid 2 battleships of Ceres choosing from our navy. I'll also bid 100,000,000 we received from the spoils of war. When we acquire ballistics in a few weeks, that will be given to your empire.
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Ceres
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Post by Ceres on Dec 13, 2014 12:20:10 GMT -5
Ionic, as that is a very generous over, it is incredibly one-sided and I will not cheat another player. Perhaps something more fair? Klopstock, The Navy is unnecessary but monetary currency would be nice. I'm supposing this would be in German marks? The Spanish people would prosper immensely under any British, French, German or Ukrainian rule as they had nothing prior to this event. I am a strategist, and I feel like the extra land and population will be a burden on my end and I could not fully support the new citizens. My Empire is already incredibly large. That is why they would do better under another's rule. (Also, fun fact, $100 million is equal to almost $2.5 billion today. Let me the first to say that would be a very dramatic over-payment  ) |
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Post by The-Great-Zuzu-Man on Dec 13, 2014 12:25:35 GMT -5
Yes they would be in German Marks, we received quite the surplus from the Danish, Polish, and Dutch treasuries. As well as our booming economy.
((I know how expensive this is, but I would imagine it was a reasonable price for the land.
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Post by IonicCraze on Dec 13, 2014 13:57:57 GMT -5
(Honestly I don't know what else to say. if I bid more money, the question will be where it came from. military is apparently unnecessary. ) i guess in that case i will bid $150M euros.
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Post by The-Great-Zuzu-Man on Dec 13, 2014 15:13:18 GMT -5
((I don't think Euros existed in 1900's  It was probably Franks. We will see if Ceres will think your bid is valid, if so, I will have to raise it.  |
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Post by Geminibios on Dec 13, 2014 16:29:22 GMT -5
(Maybe we can work on developing some common currency between the nations (euro) or at least an exchange rate system based upon the economy ratings of the nations, besides that, i agree that it should be something other than euros, at least for the time being.)
Britain in an attempt to appease the Spanish people, wishes to announce its decision to refrain from taking part in the auctioning off of Spain to larger foreign powers.
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Ceres
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Post by Ceres on Dec 13, 2014 16:33:18 GMT -5
(All of these numbers are valid but I'm just trying to process your guys' economic limits here. You don't want to spend too much and have it drop your economy. There are other options that are safer rather than spending huge amounts of money.) Ionic, that is a generous offer so far but here's what I would prefer on your side. 80 million in Francs along with the Southern coast of France as my claim so I can connect Southern Spain to Switzerland. My claim would be as thick inland as Eastern Spain and snake around the border of Italy. In this process, you would lose the port city of Nice. (The auction is still up, I was just responding to an offer. I'm surprised that Britain has not posted anything Geminibios posted while I was writing this ) |
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Ceres
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Post by Ceres on Dec 13, 2014 16:40:20 GMT -5
Here's a fetch for the two bidding parties. France and I trade land. I gain Southern France like my previous post and France gains Northern Spain, splitting my auctioning claim in two. Germany can lay claim on Central Spain, the other 50% of land equivalent, for 50 million marks; alike their initial offer- Half the land, half the price. Germany would also gain access to all of Austria-Hungary's port cities in Spain for fairness reasoning.
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Post by The-Great-Zuzu-Man on Dec 13, 2014 16:51:25 GMT -5
I can agree to this deal crafted by Austria-Hungary. What does France say?
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Post by IonicCraze on Dec 13, 2014 18:03:06 GMT -5
France will agree to giving the southern coast to connect your states. However please refrain from being to greedy when the borders are redrawn. (I still want to have some france left lol). In exchange we will take the northern have of Spain. This sounds fair to us.
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It was probably Franks. We will see if Ceres will think your bid is valid, if so, I will have to raise it. 
